Orange mail in translation         

 

9/10/1998 - Filipe Oliveira

 

 

            Initially, it wanted to be thankful the Mello for the gorgeous sent

            mail of morning today. Same debtor for the recognition.

 

            Well, after reading all mails sent by the stack in the last days, vi

            that the situation arrived at the side of the chaos, but improved a

            little this week. But, I was surprised and I been chateado very

            with the output of Andres of the country.

 

            Andres, wanted to say that I consider you a great friend and to

            be thankful to you, sincerely, for all its effort and work for

            Orange. I, more of the one than nobody, always know that vc

            always wanted to see this country growing and I wanted the

            best one for it. Nobody would spend hours and hours of its time

            working in favor of Orange, creating sites, going behind a better

            supplier, if worrying about as much thing as vc.

 

            E obliged for all work that vc made until today with our magazine

            (that, it is clearly, it goes to continue firm and strong), the

            Orange Mechanics. I come back to say: vc he is a great friend.

 

Moving of subject... it would like to say something to auto intitled

            " the patriotic ones ", those that they had decided to be against

            the Agreement with Meeting. E already acknowledgment soon

            that the mail is great pacas.

 

            After almost two months moved away from Orange, I decided to

            come back to participate of the country, in March. I was far pq I

            travelled of vacation, pq was with personal problems and pq

            Orange was uninteresting for me. It did not like the one that was

            being made in the country, since its foundation until the start the

            year. Then, I moved away myself.

 

            But in March it wanted to come back and I found the country

            played to you trace them. A brincadeira election was being led

            to the front, with the intention to choose forest council members.

            Pq of brincadeira? Pq the parties were not serious, the fight

            enters the candidates was not serious and to that everything of

            little value. As much is thus, that each voter had to vote in two

            parties...

 

            The election was made and nobody bound for the results. The

            country was stopped, full stopped. The Anne was the

            Margravessa, that is, the head of government of one of the

            parts that Orange - as confederation - possuía, the Margraviado

            de Pirraines.

 

            I discovered, tb, that one of the founders of the country, Fabio

            Trigo, if it had moved for Meeting, that the Jean was giving up

            everything and that the Ramon capsizes inactive.

 

            But it wanted to come back and it wanted to try to make Orange

            to improve, and together with Guillermo and Andres (that it

            came back to the active at the same time that I).

 

            I do not go to spend the patience and the time of vcs saying

            everything that we made, as we made and because we made,

            until pq we work for the country, pq we like it and nao to hear "

            debtor " later.

 

            But he is hard to hear now that we are treasonous,

            coup-minded, entreguistas, etc. He is hard to see that it has

            people that it finds that I, Andres and Guillermo do not like

            Orange. That I and Andres have personal interest in the

            Agreement firmed with Meeting.

 

            He is hard to hear that the Agreement is illegal, that we infringe

            norms of the Constitution, that nothing of that was made is valid,

            that a plebiscite does not have to be able...

 

            People... that this... please, reads with calm, thinks, reflect...

 

            The Agreement was after firmed a voting, that decided, for 13

            the 3, for it. What papo is this that the votes had come of

            inactive? Vcs all were a flock of inactive of bigger mark, with

            exception of the Jean! E who said that inactive vote of not

            valley? They are all citizens, as I, eat vc that she is reading this

            mail now! E only 3 people, repitor THREE people had voted

            against the Union. Vcs had lost, understands?

 

            A plebiscite has to be able yes for this. Who more would have to

            be able to decide the destination of the country of that its

            people? They do not come with this of that the voting was so

            that the negotiations continued. The voting was - clearly - so that

            the agreement or was not firmed.

 

 

English:

 

 

            The useless fetching of arguments of vcs arrives to be ridicule...

            we could simply have signed the ready agreement and, but we

            look for to make everything in the possible way most correct

            and for an only reason: pq in we import them with Orange.

 

            Who made the Constitution that now vcs uses against us? I

            MADE, I I wrote each string there, in my computer. Clearly that

            I was helped, but is unnecessary to say that if I had not ralado

            to create it, permaneceira Orange without Great Letter.

 

            With that logical vcs affirms that the Agreement had that to be

            voted by the Advice of the Forest, if it still does not exist? If

            Guillermo withholds to be able them of the Legislative one and

            the Executive? If was made a plebiscite to decide the question?

 

 

            Roderic, although its last mail for me, I go to say that I was

            contented with its input in Orange, pq vc is a citizen who speaks,

            that she fights and that fights. But before calling me moleque,

            please, it makes fifth of that I already made micronational, tá

            good? Of that I already made for 3 micronations, valley to stand

            out.

 

            Another thing: Anne, vc does not order NOTHING in this country,

            with or without Act of Union. Vai to read the Constitution before

            coming with these decrees without foot nor head.

 

            The Agreement with Meeting is valid and legal, until it has an

            Advice of the Forest, legally elect and that he decides for its

            revocation or until the Emperor of Meeting wants to break it.

            Until there, the Head of State of Orange is Claude de Castro,

            with the heading of Prince, and the Head of Government is

            Guillermo de Orange, under the heading of General Secretary.

 

            Any another contrary manifestation to this is illegal, incipient and

            useless.

 

            One more time: they make opposition to the will, but without

            lying, offending and wanting to transform Orange into Porto Claro.

 

9/11/1998 - Ramon Llatzer

 

            Well, expensive friends, as many compatriots, I sit down obliged

            to offer tambem mine reflexoes on ours well-loved Parents of

            Orange. It is time of speaking.

 

            The Orangianos in we ask the classic questions to them: WHO

            WE ARE? PQ WE ARE AQUÍ? WHERE WE GO?

 

            Nao I can leave of answers them in I publish, for if being able to

            help a little.

 

            WHO I AM: Many that leem me, if nao have come of Port

            Clearly, nao know who are. Provinente de Porto Clearly, I am

            cidadao of Orange, moved away and inactive much time.

            Cuando I arrived the Port Clearly, Jean Tisserand was the First

            Minister. In Port Clearly I fought with my friends Filipe and

            Savalls against the Aguiar and the estupidez of the Greens. We

            made new friends: Andres, Guillermo, MEC, irmâs Kaprinski,

            Fabio and Patricia Trigo (nao I want to forget ninguem). In the

            famous night of the start, I burnt plantaçao of marijuana that had

            in Pirraines, I launew to airs first emissao of Free Orange Radio

            and crossed the Oiapoque in canoe with the other founding

            parents and maes of Orange.

 

            PQ I AM AQUÍ: Pq taste of naçoes, micronaçoes, the politica,

            to write, Internet, linguas, relaçoes with people doutros paises,

            etc. Everything that is certain. But I have 3 personal reasons

            that sao of an upper category: 1º) Cuando I arrived the Port

            Clearly, I gave to my word of honor the Savalls of to be one

            cidadao active and participativo. 2º) Cuando we established the

            Socialist Party, I gave to my word of honor the Filipe of being a

            militant asset until the 1997 end. 3º) I discovered the supreme

            pleasure of being able to learn and to practise lingua

            Portuguese.

 

            Although, after the inbound the Orange, as much intensity very,

            it felt tired me and desincentivado. The Orangianos we eramos

            (and we are) very corteses and gallants and have a proper

            culture, but nao I found no pleasure in the few activities of the

            Principality.

 

            But nao we have the sufficient imaginaçao to invent a future.

            Personally, nao I know to answer to the third question: WHERE

            WE GO? In two ocasioes we have been captivated and

            seduced for imaginaçao doutros (Aguiar and Claude), and the

            two times we have acted collectively and individually in direçao

            of a future, as action or as reaçao. Both cases have

            demonstrated ours terrible deficit of imaginaçao (and I recognize

            that I am worse, the less imaginative of all orangianos).

 

            Another one aspeto in the micronational, on world to the

            previous one, is desproporçao between reality (that she is lean)

            and expetativas (that always sao great). But, we can be certain

            of that the others micronaçoes are arranged better that in? Sao

            more populated? It is certain that Reuniao has 300 inhabitants?

            Yes? Cuantos of active them sao? Less than in Orange? Qué

            made Aguiar to capture cidadaos (cuando nao it invented them):

            nao used Internet; to I oppose it, used the Globe of Rio De

            Janeiro one and another time.

 

            As summary, I think that nao we are worse and sím very better

            that others micronaçoes. What I want to say that is suspected

            that our problems nao sao specific problems of Orange, senao

            of everything the micronational world. Nao we will find soluçoes

            definitive (only temporales) in new and pparently attractive

            Reuniao, Port Clearly or other paises. Our problems sao the

            same ones that the problems of them: participaçao, activities,

            tédio, imaginaçao...

 

            I nao have soluçao.

 

            Reflexao to the Filipe had this more than they ninguem it. Nao is

            satisfactory, but he is something.

 

            It has helped a little?

 

            e another time.

 

Filipe Oliveira 9/24/1998

 

> Second, already a ready constitutional emendation exists, that I call > >

              Constitution B, where diverse alterations in the Power Moderator are > > made, to

              be adequate thePós-Acordo situation. Guillermo of > > Orange knows of this, I

              already commented with it. > > Ai that you erra more still, my expensive one. As it

              is that vc plan everything, also > the constitution of a country and does not inform

              nothing? Filipe... looks at face, you can > to be intelligent and to want well for

              Orange, but you cannot make everything > alone. You have limitations, you have

              accepted this. He does not find that all think equal > you because they do not think.

              In the truth alone a minority makes it.

 

              I make what I to want, its insane person! If I to want to write a thousand

              constitutions, nobody I have I swim with this. To approve them is another history. I

              simply said that I have the ready emendations. E from there? The day that I to

              want, I control the emendations to the Advice to vote them and the Advice I can

              approve them or not.

 

              > > Third, he is not eXtrangeiro, he is foreign. > > Oh! The world goes to finish!

              Annestadt goes to be invaded because an adolescent > tsc committed an error of

              grafica... tsc tsc.

 

              Tsc, tsc, tsc, I say. E is not error of grafica, is error of grafia.

 

              > > Room, the Claude does not order nothing in Orange, already I tired to say this.

              > > according to available constitution in the begun one that I consider I eat > legal,

              it has yes. If it does not have direct, has very indirect. Mainly in that > it says

              respect the influence and status that it has.

 

              Oh, munda goes to finish! That influence and status it has here? Vcs alone xingam

              it and speaks that it wants to finish with Orange!

 

 

              > Clearly that we have... We are forbidden to keep relations with any country > that

              meeting to declare enemy... E in addition, we are a protectorate yes, > fact that

              reduces and very the picture of the begun one in the exterior

 

              Graaaaaaaaande thing. Meeting has one or two enemy and I never heard to

              speak of none of the two countries.

 

              E nobody reduced picture none of Orange in the exterior, vc is speaking without

              knowing.

 

              > The Advice of the Forests has the power to veto yes, but on 2/3, that in > ours in

              case that he corresponds the unamimity almost.

 

              Vc he is reading the constitution that is in the site... goes there to read of new:

              DESIGN of Constitution. DESIGN, DESIGN, DESIGN. That one was not the

              approved Constitution.

 

              > Without a doubt, I do not disagree with you. But we will enter in the LOSS

              already with disadvantage, > therefore we are part of the Empire of Meeting

 

              E which is the disadvantage in this?

 

              > It had yes, and I find that nobody disagrees with you. But it has accepted Filipe,

              that is > passed. He does not have more necessity of it, it is alone bringing

              demoralization and > discord in the begun one

 

              The discord was provoked by vcs, not for me.

 

              > We will see then. Much new blood entered here. Of my friends I only find that

              already > 5 had entered. All are made use to make much thing. In addition, > when

              the quarrel to cease, we will be able to tranquilizar and finally to head for >

              development of the begun one.

 

              We will see Exactly.

 

              > The demoralization, the extrangeira intervention in ours politics, etc etc. Who > it

              takes care of is the companionable Wheat, but under orders of Cláudio. E in

              addition, it is > a FORMER citizen, opinions and positions politics can move

              easily.

 

              That demoralization? That intervention? It looks at the arguments that used... are

              coitado of the Fabio, still did not say nothing and already it is made a mistake.

 

              > Vamo... sé is there for consuming, then let us consume us.

 

              I was not who I started, Lenin. I until today you found my friend. He found.

 

              > > " he does not consider as pessoal"... only if I had cockroach blood. > > I will

              better explain this in the next email

 

              Its next mail goes thus to be deletado that to arrive. I do not have nothing more to

              talk with vc.

 

              > Certain you tá, In this item I forgot to comment, then it was empty and > partial.

              This was part of a reasoning mine... You age against > reduction of being able

              them of the Advice, who wanted to reduce only the 1 member

 

              Claaaaaaaaaaaaaro....esqueceu now... is easy to speak.

 

              > > E I continue supporting this. Who is the member of the indicated Advice > > for

              the Forest ones? NOBODY at least was indicated. > > Clearly, the voting tá

              marked for this end of week

 

              It is, the voting starts tomorrow and it does not have NO candidate...

 

              > > Lie, lie, lie. ALL and ANY VETO to the acts of the Advice > > of the Forest it

              can be knocked down by simple majority, that is, 3 > > votes between 5. > > Art.

              13 > Paragraph Third - a veto alone could be knocked down by, at the very least,

              2/3 of > council members. Knocked down a veto, the law or amends will be

              promulgated by > Presidency of the Advice of the Forests > > My expensive one,

              seems that you if it confused. The constitution gives the ratio to me. For > to knock

              down a veto is necessary 4 in 5 votes.

 

 

              What > is almost unamimity in one; divided advice

 

              Already I spoke. Vc it is reading the DESIGN of Constitution. DESIGN, is not the

              definitive Constitution. The things form moved so that, after the Act, the Advice of

              State had little power. Its " will xará " knows of this.

 

              > > " Dirty maneuver "... > > Dirty and antidemocratic exactly

 

              Not so dirty how much its false friendship, that lasted until the day where its

              company was authorized to function in Orange.

 

              > It could have spoken with the Pope. The elections had been made on behalf of

              the candidate, > e not in the name of the party. If this law was approved, it was not

              shown to > nation and, to be democratic, would have to only enter in vigor in next >

              elections. I keep my opinion that this was not to play clean, > mainly because you it

              did not inform the people of this

Patricia Trigo is Council member. I created a law, that is in the MB of Orange and

              was ordered by mail to all, in day 21 of September, created a party and it he

              entered in my place in the Advice. Everything inside of the Law, of the Legal Spirit

              that always invigorated in Orange.

 

              > E I continue descordando of its methods

 

              It is dIscordando, " not descordando ".

 

              > > E who sees says that I made everything alone, né? Funny, but for that me > > I

              remember, 3 people had only voted against the Union. Pq now I is that > > " I

              delivered the power "? E that to be able I delivered? What Meeting already made

              > > of bad here? > > Of three that they had created, you he is the only one that it

              keeps the inflexibilidade.

 

              It reads of new: " 3 people had only voted against the Union ". They had voted

              Against.

 

              > I am only chancellor for the lusófonos... I know. E in addition to the best of my

              knowledge and belief, you > it orders e-mails for the stack with a good frequency.

I am only the Director for Lusófonos Subjects of the Chancellery. Nor Chancellor or

              Vice-Chanceler I am, I eat I discovered later. I am Managing. Only, more nothing. E

              which the problem to order mails for the stack? Hahahahaha! Any one of Orange

              can make the same.

 

 

9/24/1998 - Princess Anne

 

Para to finish, arrives to be depressing to see the level where vcs had arrived

              stops

 

              to >tentar to justify the necessity of the end of the Act of Union. In the absence of

              solid and based >argumentos, any thing serves, not? >De impulsivity, an

              information brought up to date in the FAQ of the site of Meeting is not

              >transformada in something catastrophic, despairing and that sample that Orange

              >está being harmed....tsc, tsc, tsc... that this...

 

              It wants to say then that everything that we speak so far was useless! Filipe, until

              seems that you have a filter that only leaves to pass what you like to hear... People

              speak, speak, speak, explain, she explains, and in this time all vc she did not take

              nothing of that people said in consideration... people decided there to use other

              words, pra to see if vc understood, but also it did not advance. What necessary

              people to say pra vc to understand? >Por that vcs they do not prove, with concrete things, where Orange is being

              >oprimida, achincalhada and humiliating for the Union? Why they do not point the

              >áreas of Orange that had started to stop to function, do not show where the

              >situação was better BEFORE the Agreement? They had never made this

              because such things do not >existem!

 

              How they do not exist? People catch things that they put in the site of them, things

              that they say between itself, and vc only say that it is ' would lower ', and ' lies '.

              What necessary people, then? A message signed for the Claude, saying: "

              Orange is ugly and bobo "? Then vc are good for being there, seated, filtering,

              because thus vc do not tire. As people, trying to make to understand you what

              people find.

 

              >Vcs prefers or to point picuinhas insignificant or to attack and to offend without

 

              >motivo. They attack people who vcs at least know, as if all in >Reunião were the

              alive incarnation of the evil and all that apóiam the Union >fizessem it for being

              corrupted, sold, without character.

 

              Who started to attack was not we. We start trying to keep a level condizente with a

              logical and rational quarrel. But vocês they had lowered the level, and us we are of

              meat and bone, we do not like to be xingados. Then Guillermo came and calmed

              the spirits (he was excellent what it spoke) but you insist on wanting to lower the

              level of new. I could have answered this message cuspindo would lower and lower,

              but I chose to use, from now, of the good education that is of my custom.

 

              they >em to make nothing, besides playing, until the day where namoradinha saw

              its to lose >trono.

 

              I do not have I marry none with the Savoy. But this must be another thing that its

              mental filter does not leave to pass, then more does not advance to repeat.

               >Vcs is, definitively, depressing. Pq, for vcs, everything this very is >engraçado.

              Xingar and to attack people, to undeserve efforts, to disentail the >verdade of the

              facts, to all denigrate a made work, everything is very funny.

 

              I am not laughing. I doubt that he has somebody laughing, because all are

              exasperados with this situation, that is missed (if it was certain, nobody would be

              contesting here) and you if refuses to accept our reasons. I find I am that you do

              not have more arguments against us.

 

              >Você, " Morgan ", and its coleguinha, " Savoy ", are so false and pretending in

              this

 

              >pretenso " patriotism " how much its names in Orange.

 

              What you it wanted to say with this? In the proper form of Orange the option is

              given to choose a fictitious name to use itself in the country.

 

              they >Quem likes exactly, who if interests exactly for micronations, arranges

              >tempo, independently of work, study or what it is.

 

              The Jean, yes, when >critca something that I make, I stop and think about the one

              who happened, pq it I am somebody

 

              >com base, experience and love for micronations. I know that it goes to be

              >falando for the good of Orange.

 

              Then I find that I go to ask for pra it to speak what we are saying to the as much

              time... thus you listening...

 

              >Agora, who did not make nothing, it never made absolutely nothing, and it comes

              to attack? Ah,

 

              simple >é to attack who always was with the face to covers, who always was

 

              >exposto. But to make, to work, if to dedicate are well different.

 

              We start appealing the ratio, and would very like to continue thus. He is alone you

              to hear people.

 

              Anne

 

1/21/1999 - André Pfeiffer on relations with Réunion

 

Do pó para o pó

André Pfeiffer*

 

Os cidadãos mais antigos nas micronações devem se lembrar que Orange e

Reunião já foram grandes inimigos. Os não tão antigos devem se lembrar que

Orange e Reunião já foram micronações irmãs, tendo até unido os seus

territórios por um breve período de tempo. Mas os mais novos estão

convivendo com uma nova situação, Orange não tem mais o porque continuar

com relações diplomáticas com Reunião. Após a grande debandada da esquerda

em Reunião para a Ludônia o pior do Sacro Império está ocupando a

totalidade dos cargos e das mensagens oficiais do governo.

Hoje, ser contra a ditadura militar que matou milhares de pessoas através

de covardes métodos de tortura no Brasil, em quase sua totalidade

estudantes universitários ou pais de família, já pode até fazer uma pessoa

não ser bem vinda no Sacro Império de Reunião. Deve ser útil relembrar que

o principal motivo pela aproximação de Orange e Reunião foi o caminho que

estava sendo percorrido pelos líderes de Reunião em busca de uma democracia

quase plena e este glorioso caminho foi destruído completamente em algumas

poucas semanas.

Na atual realidade o Principado de Orange não só pode como DEVE romper as

relações diplomáticas com o Sacro Império de Reunião não somente para

manter o nosso bom nome entre as diversas micronações democráticas

conhecidas mas como também não abalar nossos valores democráticos que

acompanham o nosso próspero principado antes mesmo de ele existir.

Aos amigos de Reunião, que hoje são poucos, só posso falar uma coisa, eu

espero que logo o Sacro Império de Reunião volte ao caminho duro mas

compensador da democracia para que nossas micronações possam voltar a ser

verdadeiramente amigas.

Ao povo e ao Secretário Geral de Orange eu espero a compreensão e que

entendam a minha posição de tentar acabar com algo que não existe mais na

realidade e somente no papel. Se existe alguém que gostaria de ver Reunião

com boas relações diplomáticas com Orange esta pessoa sou eu pois sempre

fui amigo de Reunião contudo, ainda mais forte que a minha amizade com

Reunião está a minha eterna luta pela democracia que está acima de qualquer

outro valor, até mesmo da amizade.

 

*André Pfeiffer é Secretário de Imigração e de Economia do Principado de

Orange e ex-cidadão do Sacro Império de Reunião onde ele era Capitão

Hereditário de Dabliu, Conselheiro Imperial entre outros cargos e títulos